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	<title>Comments on: Week one of working for&#160;myself</title>
	<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/</link>
	<description>Elliot Jay Stocks is Senior Designer at Carson Systems and his work is regularly published worldwide. He's also a writer and musician... of sorts.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Hughes</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1655</link>
		<author>David Hughes</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm setting up a business with the plan to go fully free-lance early next year so look forward to future updates.

Good luck!</description>
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<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1656</link>
		<author>Shane</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1656</guid>
					<description>Thanks for the update - I can sympathise with the accountant situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update - I can sympathise with the accountant situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1657</link>
		<author>Ritchie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1657</guid>
					<description>heheh... cool.. Which is better, having your own company or continue freelance? For me I will continue my freelance work, don't even know If I will work from a company to earn money, it just that SEO really give me hard time in time management with having too many client that I can't handle alone. T-T that's why I don't reply with their email messages hehe ^_^.

How about you Elliot, do you think that your gonna be having a hard time that your already back for freelance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heheh&#8230; cool.. Which is better, having your own company or continue freelance? For me I will continue my freelance work, don&#8217;t even know If I will work from a company to earn money, it just that SEO really give me hard time in time management with having too many client that I can&#8217;t handle alone. T-T that&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t reply with their email messages hehe ^_^.</p>
<p>How about you Elliot, do you think that your gonna be having a hard time that your already back for freelance?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Meyer</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1658</link>
		<author>Kyle Meyer</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1658</guid>
					<description>Sounds like one hell of a week! Glad to hear things are off to a good start. Hopefully they settle just a little bit so you can allow yourself a bit of chat time. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like one hell of a week! Glad to hear things are off to a good start. Hopefully they settle just a little bit so you can allow yourself a bit of chat time. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Epic Alex</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1659</link>
		<author>Epic Alex</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1659</guid>
					<description>Glad the first week has gone OK for you. How are you going to be managing your work whilst you are away? Or have you not taken any on?

And whilst we're on the subject, are you going to be posting on here whilst you're away so we can keep op with what you're up to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad the first week has gone OK for you. How are you going to be managing your work whilst you are away? Or have you not taken any on?</p>
<p>And whilst we&#8217;re on the subject, are you going to be posting on here whilst you&#8217;re away so we can keep op with what you&#8217;re up to?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Jones</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1660</link>
		<author>Bob Jones</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1660</guid>
					<description>Good to hear you're a control freak there Elliot! I'm sure your going to need to be :)

Sounding like everything is going to plan so far.

Are you looking to work solely on your own projects or will you be 'subbing' to other companies? Either way I look forward to seeing some more quality work from you.

All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear you&#8217;re a control freak there Elliot! I&#8217;m sure your going to need to be :)</p>
<p>Sounding like everything is going to plan so far.</p>
<p>Are you looking to work solely on your own projects or will you be &#8217;subbing&#8217; to other companies? Either way I look forward to seeing some more quality work from you.</p>
<p>All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Dickson Fong</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1661</link>
		<author>Dickson Fong</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1661</guid>
					<description>Glad to know you're enjoying your first week! I agree that the most difficult part is the time/money management. Being your own boss definitely has its perks, but comes with its own distinct responsibilities as well.

Best wishes to you and Sam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to know you&#8217;re enjoying your first week! I agree that the most difficult part is the time/money management. Being your own boss definitely has its perks, but comes with its own distinct responsibilities as well.</p>
<p>Best wishes to you and Sam.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1662</link>
		<author>Grant</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1662</guid>
					<description>Fun to hear how things are starting out. I did my best to keep things simple when I started out too. It was a good approach.

&lt;blockquote&gt;"… control over my own workload…"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just remember: that goes both ways. Schedule too much work and your workload will control you. And when you're the boss, there's no one to complain to about the long hours. Haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun to hear how things are starting out. I did my best to keep things simple when I started out too. It was a good approach.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;… control over my own workload…&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Just remember: that goes both ways. Schedule too much work and your workload will control you. And when you&#8217;re the boss, there&#8217;s no one to complain to about the long hours. Haha.</p>
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		<title>By: keif</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1663</link>
		<author>keif</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1663</guid>
					<description>That's an awesome step - I look forward to one day going straight freelance (and feeling confident about it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an awesome step - I look forward to one day going straight freelance (and feeling confident about it).</p>
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		<title>By: Celso Soares</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1665</link>
		<author>Celso Soares</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1665</guid>
					<description>It's nice to see a fellow designer achieve his goals, freelancing or not. I freelanced for 5 years and I guess the best advice I could humbly give you is to set the rules of play in the very first meeting you have with every new client.

Also, if you go through a dry spell, try and get some American clients. Loads of positive energy and fair pay.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to see a fellow designer achieve his goals, freelancing or not. I freelanced for 5 years and I guess the best advice I could humbly give you is to set the rules of play in the very first meeting you have with every new client.</p>
<p>Also, if you go through a dry spell, try and get some American clients. Loads of positive energy and fair pay.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Reinier Meenhorst</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1666</link>
		<author>Reinier Meenhorst</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1666</guid>
					<description>Good to hear you're off to a nice start! I can very much relate to the segment on 'Control'. This feeling of control sure is addictive, mind you. Luckily it is compensated by those unreasonable requests and deadlines to keep you from living in Utopia. ;-)

Another great thing of being independent is the fact that you can pour your passion into your work without end - it really does make the job more worthwhile and progressive. 

Hope it all works out and that you'll still be able to treat us on some of those nice blogposts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear you&#8217;re off to a nice start! I can very much relate to the segment on &#8216;Control&#8217;. This feeling of control sure is addictive, mind you. Luckily it is compensated by those unreasonable requests and deadlines to keep you from living in Utopia. ;-)</p>
<p>Another great thing of being independent is the fact that you can pour your passion into your work without end - it really does make the job more worthwhile and progressive. </p>
<p>Hope it all works out and that you&#8217;ll still be able to treat us on some of those nice blogposts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1667</link>
		<author>Tony</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1667</guid>
					<description>Hi,

I've been subscribing your blog off RSS for a while. As a beginning freelancer, your website and some of the work that you have done provided me some start points and insights. Of course, some magazines (nice article written in the &lt;i&gt;.net&lt;/i&gt; magazine) here and there helped as well.

Indeed, there's a lot of freedom and self-control involved with freelancing, and you're right - that's why we do it. Though, so far I've only built one site, and am doing another temp job at the same time to pay the bills.

I have a question though, and I was wondering if you could shed some light.

At the beginning of my (first) project, I invoiced my client with a certain amount that I estimated from the top of my head. Towards the end of it, I felt that I should charge more. And in doing a bit more research than I had orginally gone through, I realised I was right. I do feel that I am in a right to be charging a bit more for some of the work that I have done. However, I have a problem getting over the mindset that "I invoiced them a certain amount, and we agreed to it."

Kind of confusing. Should I then simply lower the standard of my work because what I'm charging them would, say, only accounts for feature A, but not feature B? It doesn't feel quite right.

Please advise.

Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been subscribing your blog off RSS for a while. As a beginning freelancer, your website and some of the work that you have done provided me some start points and insights. Of course, some magazines (nice article written in the <i>.net</i> magazine) here and there helped as well.</p>
<p>Indeed, there&#8217;s a lot of freedom and self-control involved with freelancing, and you&#8217;re right - that&#8217;s why we do it. Though, so far I&#8217;ve only built one site, and am doing another temp job at the same time to pay the bills.</p>
<p>I have a question though, and I was wondering if you could shed some light.</p>
<p>At the beginning of my (first) project, I invoiced my client with a certain amount that I estimated from the top of my head. Towards the end of it, I felt that I should charge more. And in doing a bit more research than I had orginally gone through, I realised I was right. I do feel that I am in a right to be charging a bit more for some of the work that I have done. However, I have a problem getting over the mindset that &#8220;I invoiced them a certain amount, and we agreed to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kind of confusing. Should I then simply lower the standard of my work because what I&#8217;m charging them would, say, only accounts for feature A, but not feature B? It doesn&#8217;t feel quite right.</p>
<p>Please advise.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Tan</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1668</link>
		<author>Jon Tan</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1668</guid>
					<description>Congratulations on the first week of many, Elliot! My experience would say push as much admin as you can off to professionals to do more of what you love. I wish I'd done it sooner (say about 6 years ago!) I've got no doubt you're entering one of the best times of your life; long may it continue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on the first week of many, Elliot! My experience would say push as much admin as you can off to professionals to do more of what you love. I wish I&#8217;d done it sooner (say about 6 years ago!) I&#8217;ve got no doubt you&#8217;re entering one of the best times of your life; long may it continue!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1669</link>
		<author>Simon</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1669</guid>
					<description>Ahh, to be able to charge when the goal posts are moved... One day...

Best of luck Elliot. I'm interested to see what you post on to-do list apps - I'm on the hunt for a good solution myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, to be able to charge when the goal posts are moved&#8230; One day&#8230;</p>
<p>Best of luck Elliot. I&#8217;m interested to see what you post on to-do list apps - I&#8217;m on the hunt for a good solution myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Weir</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1670</link>
		<author>Max Weir</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1670</guid>
					<description>Good start, I'd like to see how this new venture pans out for you. All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good start, I&#8217;d like to see how this new venture pans out for you. All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: rama</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1671</link>
		<author>rama</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1671</guid>
					<description>Hey guys, i just wrote a code that converts px into em within a CSS stylesheet. Wanna know what you guys think about it.. try it &lt;a href="http://rampok.org/px2em" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, i just wrote a code that converts px into em within a CSS stylesheet. Wanna know what you guys think about it.. try it <a href="http://rampok.org/px2em" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Thx.</p>
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		<title>By: daustralala</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1672</link>
		<author>daustralala</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1672</guid>
					<description>I wanna be a freelancer someday. And you give me more strength to pursue it. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanna be a freelancer someday. And you give me more strength to pursue it. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus Jepson</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1675</link>
		<author>Magnus Jepson</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1675</guid>
					<description>Maybe I missed it earlier, but why are you going to Trondheim ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I missed it earlier, but why are you going to Trondheim ?</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Jay Stocks</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1676</link>
		<author>Elliot Jay Stocks</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1676</guid>
					<description>You know, whenever I reply to comments, I always say something like, "thanks for the kind words, guys," but I really do mean it! Reading your well wishes above puts a great big smile on my face, and I &lt;em&gt;sincerely&lt;/em&gt; appreciate you guys taking the time and effort to leave comments. :)

@ Ritchie: Not sure what you mean, I'm afraid... "hard time" in what way?

@ Epic Alex: I'll be working full-time while I'm away in Norway and I've got myself pretty much booked out for the entirety of my trip. I'll be posting on here as usual, and in fact my working / blogging life will be pretty much identical to how it is in England - just with different surroundings!

@ Bob Jones: I've collaborated with people on a number of freelance projects I've done over the years and this is definitely something I'll continue with when required (usually when I need some development stuff done). Most of the projects I have booked in right now will just be solo efforts, but I'm going to be doing some Wordpress stuff with &lt;a href="http://adii.co.za" rel="nofollow"&gt;Adii&lt;/a&gt; in the coming months.

@ Dickson Fong &#038; Grant: You're absolutely right! Wise words.

@ Celso Soares: Thanks for the advice - that certainly sounds like a good idea. As for American clients... it just so happens that most of my current clients &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; American!

@ Tony: As harsh as it sounds, I think you're going to have to stick to the rate you originally quoted. You can only really charge your client more if they start shifting the goalposts, and even then that will still have to be based on your agreed daily rate. If I were you I'd write this one off as 'research' and a tough lesson learned, then bump your price up for the next project.

@ Magnus Jepson: I'm going to Trondheim because my girlfriend is going travelling in the far east for two months, and I thought it was a good chance to get a change of scenery and have a little adventure of my own. I considered going pretty much anywhere in the world (as all I need is my laptop and an internet connection) but settled on Trondheim because I have some good friends there and absolutely loved it when I visited briefly last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, whenever I reply to comments, I always say something like, &#8220;thanks for the kind words, guys,&#8221; but I really do mean it! Reading your well wishes above puts a great big smile on my face, and I <em>sincerely</em> appreciate you guys taking the time and effort to leave comments. :)</p>
<p>@ Ritchie: Not sure what you mean, I&#8217;m afraid&#8230; &#8220;hard time&#8221; in what way?</p>
<p>@ Epic Alex: I&#8217;ll be working full-time while I&#8217;m away in Norway and I&#8217;ve got myself pretty much booked out for the entirety of my trip. I&#8217;ll be posting on here as usual, and in fact my working / blogging life will be pretty much identical to how it is in England - just with different surroundings!</p>
<p>@ Bob Jones: I&#8217;ve collaborated with people on a number of freelance projects I&#8217;ve done over the years and this is definitely something I&#8217;ll continue with when required (usually when I need some development stuff done). Most of the projects I have booked in right now will just be solo efforts, but I&#8217;m going to be doing some Wordpress stuff with <a href="http://adii.co.za" rel="nofollow">Adii</a> in the coming months.</p>
<p>@ Dickson Fong &#038; Grant: You&#8217;re absolutely right! Wise words.</p>
<p>@ Celso Soares: Thanks for the advice - that certainly sounds like a good idea. As for American clients&#8230; it just so happens that most of my current clients <em>are</em> American!</p>
<p>@ Tony: As harsh as it sounds, I think you&#8217;re going to have to stick to the rate you originally quoted. You can only really charge your client more if they start shifting the goalposts, and even then that will still have to be based on your agreed daily rate. If I were you I&#8217;d write this one off as &#8216;research&#8217; and a tough lesson learned, then bump your price up for the next project.</p>
<p>@ Magnus Jepson: I&#8217;m going to Trondheim because my girlfriend is going travelling in the far east for two months, and I thought it was a good chance to get a change of scenery and have a little adventure of my own. I considered going pretty much anywhere in the world (as all I need is my laptop and an internet connection) but settled on Trondheim because I have some good friends there and absolutely loved it when I visited briefly last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamish M</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1678</link>
		<author>Hamish M</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1678</guid>
					<description>I'm glad to hear it Elliot!

I freelanced a bit before I got the job I have now. Though, I was quite young then, so I didn't have quite as many options. :)

I have a full-time job right now, and It's especially fun. But the freedom of &lt;em&gt;free&lt;/em&gt;lancing is certainly enticing.

Best of luck in for the weeks to come. I hope you'll share some of your work with us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear it Elliot!</p>
<p>I freelanced a bit before I got the job I have now. Though, I was quite young then, so I didn&#8217;t have quite as many options. :)</p>
<p>I have a full-time job right now, and It&#8217;s especially fun. But the freedom of <em>free</em>lancing is certainly enticing.</p>
<p>Best of luck in for the weeks to come. I hope you&#8217;ll share some of your work with us!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1679</link>
		<author>Dan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah good luck, not that you need it :), having followed your blog for a while now, and recently started freelancing (on the side) myself, I will be watching closely how you get on. Its great that you can just up sticks with a laptop and internet connection, I look forward to the day I am in a position to go for it.

By the way, whensw the next cooking with beer item?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah good luck, not that you need it :), having followed your blog for a while now, and recently started freelancing (on the side) myself, I will be watching closely how you get on. Its great that you can just up sticks with a laptop and internet connection, I look forward to the day I am in a position to go for it.</p>
<p>By the way, whensw the next cooking with beer item?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dick</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1680</link>
		<author>Michael Dick</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1680</guid>
					<description>Good luck, Elliot. Keep everyone updated on your experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck, Elliot. Keep everyone updated on your experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Crawford</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1681</link>
		<author>Kevin Crawford</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1681</guid>
					<description>To hear that you'll be traveling for two months and still working full time is very inspiring! I've often thought thought of traveling while maintaining a freelance business in the future, and I'm glad to hear that it's been done before (well, at least that you've planned it and secured your work).

@ Tony
Pricing is a little bit tricky. I personally itemize different site elements &#38; functionality and give each one a price that is &lt;strong&gt;a)&lt;/strong&gt; roughly based off of time required to complete, and &lt;strong&gt;b)&lt;/strong&gt; sounds like it would make sense to the client. I think when you itemize things, the pricing is a little easier to swallow for the client, and it all adds up pretty quickly.

To make sure I don't get stuck with extra work under a flat rate, I always let the client know &lt;strong&gt;a)&lt;/strong&gt; how many design mockups the price includes, &lt;strong&gt;b)&lt;/strong&gt; I will correct &lt;em&gt;my&lt;/em&gt; mistakes for free &lt;strong&gt;c)&lt;/strong&gt; I will give them 1 hr of changes for free, and anything beyond that is my hourly rate. It all sounds pretty appealing, but specifying these things really benefits me more than the client.

Also, you should explain the development process to the client beforehand, and ask if that sounds good to them. They might have a different idea of how it should be developed, and if so, you'll be thankful that you talked about it. I have one client that basically wants to "hold my hand" through the entire process, over the phone. It'd be pretty annoying, if I wasn't charging hourly and watching the billable time tick away as he tells jokes and constantly asks for changes. Every time he calls, I start the timer (SlimTimer, mind you. Google it, great app).

Also, whenever you feel comfortable doing so, start charging new clients higher rates. In two years (starting at the age of 17, in Los Angeles), I've gone from my first $200 brochure site, to $400 brochure sites, to $600, and now around $800. My hourly rate has gone from $15, to $20, and is now $25. As I start looking for my next client, I'll be asking for $30/hr :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To hear that you&#8217;ll be traveling for two months and still working full time is very inspiring! I&#8217;ve often thought thought of traveling while maintaining a freelance business in the future, and I&#8217;m glad to hear that it&#8217;s been done before (well, at least that you&#8217;ve planned it and secured your work).</p>
<p>@ Tony<br />
Pricing is a little bit tricky. I personally itemize different site elements &amp; functionality and give each one a price that is <strong>a)</strong> roughly based off of time required to complete, and <strong>b)</strong> sounds like it would make sense to the client. I think when you itemize things, the pricing is a little easier to swallow for the client, and it all adds up pretty quickly.</p>
<p>To make sure I don&#8217;t get stuck with extra work under a flat rate, I always let the client know <strong>a)</strong> how many design mockups the price includes, <strong>b)</strong> I will correct <em>my</em> mistakes for free <strong>c)</strong> I will give them 1 hr of changes for free, and anything beyond that is my hourly rate. It all sounds pretty appealing, but specifying these things really benefits me more than the client.</p>
<p>Also, you should explain the development process to the client beforehand, and ask if that sounds good to them. They might have a different idea of how it should be developed, and if so, you&#8217;ll be thankful that you talked about it. I have one client that basically wants to &#8220;hold my hand&#8221; through the entire process, over the phone. It&#8217;d be pretty annoying, if I wasn&#8217;t charging hourly and watching the billable time tick away as he tells jokes and constantly asks for changes. Every time he calls, I start the timer (SlimTimer, mind you. Google it, great app).</p>
<p>Also, whenever you feel comfortable doing so, start charging new clients higher rates. In two years (starting at the age of 17, in Los Angeles), I&#8217;ve gone from my first $200 brochure site, to $400 brochure sites, to $600, and now around $800. My hourly rate has gone from $15, to $20, and is now $25. As I start looking for my next client, I&#8217;ll be asking for $30/hr :)</p>
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		<title>By: chris OB</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1682</link>
		<author>chris OB</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1682</guid>
					<description>First off, Congrats for you monumental move. I've been following your posts for a while now, and I am a big fan. I work full time at as the designer for a sign and graphics company, and have a tremendous amount of job security. I have also been doing freelance logo, print and web design for a few years. I want to take the big plunge into working full-time for myself, but my desire is paired with an overwhelming sense of impending doom and failure. (The poor U.S. economic situation only compounds the situation.) Anyway, I commend you on your move, and I only hope I eventually take a similar path. But I have to ask- Do you have days when you think "why didn't I just keep my job, what am I doing, etc?" Hopefully it's part of the process, and like the saying goes, "Nothing ventured, nothing gained."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Congrats for you monumental move. I&#8217;ve been following your posts for a while now, and I am a big fan. I work full time at as the designer for a sign and graphics company, and have a tremendous amount of job security. I have also been doing freelance logo, print and web design for a few years. I want to take the big plunge into working full-time for myself, but my desire is paired with an overwhelming sense of impending doom and failure. (The poor U.S. economic situation only compounds the situation.) Anyway, I commend you on your move, and I only hope I eventually take a similar path. But I have to ask- Do you have days when you think &#8220;why didn&#8217;t I just keep my job, what am I doing, etc?&#8221; Hopefully it&#8217;s part of the process, and like the saying goes, &#8220;Nothing ventured, nothing gained.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1691</link>
		<author>Francis</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1691</guid>
					<description>Congrats ! Turned last year freelance and I won't switch back for sure !! ^^ Just one problem that is still a bit complicated for me: managing my agenda, customers and projects. I did not yet found the perfect software to manage everything clearly...

There is a great conference in Switzerland in 2 weeks about "going solo"... I will attend it and really hope to get feedbacks from long time freelancers... www.going-solo.net

Bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats ! Turned last year freelance and I won&#8217;t switch back for sure !! ^^ Just one problem that is still a bit complicated for me: managing my agenda, customers and projects. I did not yet found the perfect software to manage everything clearly&#8230;</p>
<p>There is a great conference in Switzerland in 2 weeks about &#8220;going solo&#8221;&#8230; I will attend it and really hope to get feedbacks from long time freelancers&#8230; <a href="http://www.going-solo.net" rel="nofollow">www.going-solo.net</a></p>
<p>Bye</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1700</link>
		<author>Mo</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1700</guid>
					<description>Good for you Elliot, I wish you the best mate, it can definitely be rewarding, and I daresay hard work at times but totally worth it.

I used to be my own business (in an unrelated field) and currently work in web development two days freelance and 3 part time at a botique agency, but I'm definitely considering running a business again. 

There's nothing like the rewarding feeling of working for yourself!

All  the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you Elliot, I wish you the best mate, it can definitely be rewarding, and I daresay hard work at times but totally worth it.</p>
<p>I used to be my own business (in an unrelated field) and currently work in web development two days freelance and 3 part time at a botique agency, but I&#8217;m definitely considering running a business again. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing like the rewarding feeling of working for yourself!</p>
<p>All  the best</p>
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		<title>By: Davin</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1715</link>
		<author>Davin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1715</guid>
					<description>I do freelance work every now and then, and there have been times when I have been self employed.  I don't particularly care for the bookkeeping aspect, even though a good chunk of my educational background is in that area.  Having control over scope is something every business should have, however.  Being able to charge more for scope-creep does not mean a lot to me, because at the end of the day I still want to own my time, and I can't do that if clients demand more paid work.  The money means less to me than it did before.  Anyway being my own boss was cool enough but there's always something to do and it's very easy to burn out if you are not careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do freelance work every now and then, and there have been times when I have been self employed.  I don&#8217;t particularly care for the bookkeeping aspect, even though a good chunk of my educational background is in that area.  Having control over scope is something every business should have, however.  Being able to charge more for scope-creep does not mean a lot to me, because at the end of the day I still want to own my time, and I can&#8217;t do that if clients demand more paid work.  The money means less to me than it did before.  Anyway being my own boss was cool enough but there&#8217;s always something to do and it&#8217;s very easy to burn out if you are not careful.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Jay Stocks</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1716</link>
		<author>Elliot Jay Stocks</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 10:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1716</guid>
					<description>@ Dan: Thanks for asking! :) I don't think I'm going to be able to do one until I'm back in the UK (in July), but there are &lt;em&gt;definitely&lt;/em&gt; plans to do more, I promise!

@ Chris OB: I've only been freelancing for three(ish) weeks (&lt;em&gt;full&lt;/em&gt;-time, anyway), so I haven't ever thought that yet. And I hope I never do!

@ Francis: I think the software you're looking for is &lt;a href="http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/the-to-do-list-problem-the-things-solution/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Things&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dan: Thanks for asking! :) I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m going to be able to do one until I&#8217;m back in the UK (in July), but there are <em>definitely</em> plans to do more, I promise!</p>
<p>@ Chris OB: I&#8217;ve only been freelancing for three(ish) weeks (<em>full</em>-time, anyway), so I haven&#8217;t ever thought that yet. And I hope I never do!</p>
<p>@ Francis: I think the software you&#8217;re looking for is <a href="http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/the-to-do-list-problem-the-things-solution/" rel="nofollow">Things</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: inspirationbit</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1717</link>
		<author>inspirationbit</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 05:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1717</guid>
					<description>I've also been freelancing on a side for almost 5 years, but only this week I finally went "solo" and I must admit, I didn't have much time for the actual work yet, having too many client meetings.
It's great that you're documenting your full time freelance experience, just what I need now - "brothers in arms" :-)
All the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also been freelancing on a side for almost 5 years, but only this week I finally went &#8220;solo&#8221; and I must admit, I didn&#8217;t have much time for the actual work yet, having too many client meetings.<br />
It&#8217;s great that you&#8217;re documenting your full time freelance experience, just what I need now - &#8220;brothers in arms&#8221; :-)<br />
All the best!</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1721</link>
		<author>Francis</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 13:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1721</guid>
					<description>Hi Elliott,

I tried Things few months ago but was not convinced. I went on their website after your comment and saw that they are going to implement an iCal "link", which seems to be a great feature. I'll give it another try ! Thx !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Elliott,</p>
<p>I tried Things few months ago but was not convinced. I went on their website after your comment and saw that they are going to implement an iCal &#8220;link&#8221;, which seems to be a great feature. I&#8217;ll give it another try ! Thx !</p>
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		<title>By: enric</title>
		<link>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1729</link>
		<author>enric</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 13:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://elliotjaystocks.com/blog/archive/2008/week-one-of-working-for-myself/#comment-1729</guid>
					<description>that's perfect!!!</description>
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